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    Sunday, July 30th, 2006
    4:30 am
    [charismasuicide]
    i hate to see this place so dead
    I was thrilled to just stumble across this community, and upset to see its essentially dead. Its nice to find other people concerned with animal welfare that can look at the broader scope of things. I don't agree with people being unnesacerily cruel, but some people refuse to accept death is a part of life.

    I can respect people with a different opinion. Being vegan is one thing. I can respect that as long you realize your beliefs are not the norm and don't expect to impose it on the rest of society. [Its one thing to say your piece, another thing to use decietful tactics like PeTA... don't get me started on PeTA.] But... when people refuse to open their eyes and just can't grasp black and white facts and logic make me irate.

    Like people who "free" show dogs into the street only to get hit by cars.

    People who tell me its cruel to feed a snake once a week. If you're obviously ignorant the biology of something, don't open your mouth. The ignorance that fall out of some people amazes me.

    Or people who condem hunting and consequently purchase meat from a supermarket. I've grown lax about it recently, but for years I would only eat wild game. If I went out to eat I'd eat vegetarian. I don't believe consuming animals is wrong, but frown on the bloated factory farm and slaughterhouse industries. Eh, my point on the issue is acknowledge what you are and are not endorsing before you open your mouth about some gut feeling towards something.

    Its really nice to find other people who shared my sentiments about the legal hunting of feral cats. I found very few people agreed with me and those that did were the simple "I just hate cats" types. I love cats, however, I also hate introduced species. I am more concerned with all the creatures in a natural environment than I am one introduced species. If you were really concerned with animal welfare your cat would be safe and inside, anyway.

    Obviously I'm preaching to the choir, but the choir seems to be rather silent.
    Saturday, November 12th, 2005
    12:23 pm
    [gatorofages]
    12:03 pm
    [gatorofages]
    BY GODS !
    http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2002612507_pets09.html

    Wow....talk about stupid...this one can almost take the cake...

    Also...

    Bloody cat colonies....

    No wonder the local native species of songbirds are going extinct....800 some g-darn feral cat colonies ??? !!!....250 in that one ? Lordy....

    Someone needs to go teach these brainless bleeding hearts about something called ecology and things like extinction...

    Current Mood: grumpy
    Wednesday, July 13th, 2005
    4:23 pm
    [spyderbite]
    From the Stupid pet Owners community:

    "Apparently the cat's been out in the street for a few days to a week. No collar, but she hadn't been eating from the stray cats' food and she had been following the lady around miaowing for pettings. When I petted her I could feel her spine and her ribs, but not enough to take the step from 'slightly too skinny' to emanciated."


    http://www.livejournal.com/community/stupidpetowners/884985.html#cutid1



    Emanciate (eh-man-see-ate) V.-The act of freeing the opressed and underfed.
    Tuesday, June 28th, 2005
    8:18 pm
    [spyderbite]
    Two quotes from this evening:

    "Feeding something crickets is inhumane."

    "Killing fish is illegal. It's animal cruelty."
    Monday, June 27th, 2005
    4:20 pm
    [gatorofages]
    http://www.livejournal.com/community/chelonia/116882.html

    Just....Wow....Animal rights MORONS...

    Current Mood: blank
    Friday, June 3rd, 2005
    6:34 pm
    [bass_babe]
    bunnies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Feel the cuddly cuteness!

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    Current Mood: accomplished
    Friday, May 20th, 2005
    7:51 pm
    [gatorofages]
    Hmm...
    http://www.pamrotella.com/

    Found the turtle stories...Now, do not get me wrong, I think it is absolutely great that she saves them, but at the same time it is amazing to me that the people like this who "fight for animals and thier rights" just know so little about the animals themselves and thier natural history....

    A simple field guide should allow her to properly identify the animals she is mucking with.....I wonder if she saves snakes ?

    Anyway....I don't get these people....you can link as much anti soy material to illness and lack of protien, etc...its all just the doctors you consult...I think its funny that for some reason they still think those who partake of meat hate animals.....like, i guess lions hate gazelle and zebra, and those animals hate grasses and forbs....

    Personally, I think its the lack of nice yummy meat in thier diets making them so cranky...:>

    PPS...read about the crow that "waved" at her....

    http://www.pamrotella.com/animals/waves.html

    Crows warn species of danger my ass....if anything ravens have been shown to lead wolves to animals to KILL....Crows dive at birds of prey for a few reasons, like they are a threat to young, or in the case of great horn owls, all crows, and sometimes biologists believe its just for fun....Im sorry lady, but you need a reality check in animal behavior, not a floating ride on the big happy world of disney....You want to know what I think he was up to, being a guy that lives with corvids, and deals with them daily ?

    If he was "thinking" anything about her, Its far more likely he would have been thinking, "Swweeet, a delissscious grain fed speeding vegeterian...if I distract her she will spin out of control, and splatter herself over 3 lanes of traffic, and then I can fill my little crow belly nice and full ;>

    Current Mood: cynical
    Thursday, April 28th, 2005
    4:47 pm
    [spyderbite]
    Look how flustered they get when you point out their mistakes.

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    Friday, April 15th, 2005
    8:22 pm
    [spyderbite]
    http://www.livejournal.com/community/stupidpetowners/546731.html

    Yes, I could once again delve into the stupidity and hypocritical statements of the save the feral cat crowd, but I've posted enough about that here, so I'm going to get into somethign else in this post...their discussion on dove hunting.

    OMG, Teh Cutzie Wittle Duvs! they make it sound like dove hunting is somethign completely absurd and out of the ordinary. 42 states have a season for dove hunting, yet these nitwits think it's located in a handful of areas and rednecks go out and blast away cute little birdies that symbolize peace. oh, wait...white doves are the symbol of peace. those are mutated birds from another continent, not mourning doves.

    and since when does the size of an animal have to do with the type of meal it makes? does that mean they should open up a whale season for everyone? hell, a whale would make a hell of a meal for one state. how many fucking bean sprouts does it take to make a meal, you asinine dipshits? nobody bitches about that.

    Oh, and here's a little figure for the AR twats to chew on. Since doves don't exactly fly in and settle on a shotgun barrel to be shot (most people are used to "urbanized" doves that sit around getting fat at your bird feeder and don't fly away until you practically step on them. wild mourning doves being hunted are like miniature F-16's with the afterburners lit), the average number of shots per dove killed is somewhere around 15 or 20. this equates to a lot of shells being fired. the sale of ammunition just for hunting doves every year contributes somewhere in the neighborhood of 5 million dollars to the pittman robertson act-money that goes directly into wildlife conservation. All the AR groups in America combined can't claim a figure like that as far as helping animals.
    4:33 pm
    [spyderbite]
    When trolls attack
    I have to post this here because no one that reads my regualr journal and doesn't read this would get it. At least I don't think so.


    http://www.livejournal.com/community/animal_abusers/487.html?view=743#t743

    I love just how pissed off everyone got. Yes, it is sick. yes, it is horrible. and yes, it is completely made up. a dwarf rabbit would long have been dead by now from that sort of treatment. I've had snakes that ate rabbits that i had to pre kill. full sized rabbits, too, not dwarf ones. it doesn't take that much to kill one. A dwarf rabbit woudl be far easier to kill. hell, just handling one improperly can shatter their ribs and puncture a lung. But notice how quick most people are to get pissed off and start yelling. It just goes to show how much easier some people's lives would be if they thought about things rationally.
    Tuesday, April 12th, 2005
    4:22 pm
    [spyderbite]
    The saga continues
    MADISON, Wis. (April 12) - Feline lovers holding pictures of cats, clutching stuffed animals and wearing whiskers faced-off against hundreds of hunters at meetings around Wisconsin to voice their opinion on whether to legalize cat hunting.

    Residents in 72 counties were asked whether free-roaming cats - including any domestic cat that isn't under the owner's direct control or any cat without a collar - should be listed as an unprotected species. If listed as so, the cats could be hunted.

    The proposal was one of several dozen included in a spring vote on hunting and fishing issues held by the Wisconsin Conservation Congress. The results, only advisory, get forwarded to the state Natural Resources Board.

    Statewide results were expected Tuesday.

    La Crosse firefighter Mark Smith, 48, helped spearhead the cat-hunting proposal. He wants Wisconsin to declare free-roaming wild cats an unprotected species, just like skunks or gophers. Anyone with a small-game license could shoot the cats at will.

    At least two other upper Midwestern states, South Dakota and Minnesota, allow wild cats to be shot - and have for decades. Minnesota defines a wild, or feral, cat as one with no collar that does not show friendly behavior, said Kevin Kyle with that state's Department of Natural Resources.

    Every year in Wisconsin alone, an estimated 2 million wild cats kill 47 million to 139 million songbirds, according to state officials. Despite the astounding numbers, Smith's plan has been met with fierce opposition from cat lovers.

    Critics of Smith's idea organized Wisconsin Cat-Action Team and developed a Web site - dontshootthecat.com. Some argue it is better to trap wild cats, spay or neuter them, before releasing them.

    In Madison, about 1,200 people attended the Monday evening meeting at the Alliant Center - more than the 250 or so in a typical year, but less than the 3,000 or so who took part in a debate in 2000 over whether to allow hunters to shoot mourning doves.

    One of the attendees was Katy Francis, who wore cat ears, whiskers, a cat nose and a sign that read, ''Too Cute to Kill.'' For Francis, ''The cat hunting thing brought me out because it was very extreme.''



    cat lovers, huh? well if you love your fucking cat so much, keep it inside where it's safe. it's that simple. you let it outside, it's fair game. and I love the "too cute to kill" bullshit. you know what i think is cute?



    I bet the cat lovers wouldn't hesitate to take a shovel to something like that, that actually belongs out in the wild. And I bet she's a furry too. She's probably dressing up like a cat, protesting, and then going home and screwing her boyfriend who just came home from a "save the feral cane toad' campaign and has latex warts all over his body. god damned hippy idiot AR schmucks. I hope they all get scratched by one of their precious kitties and wind up in the hospital with severe infections.
    Tuesday, April 5th, 2005
    6:44 am
    [spyderbite]
    I'm going to try this again. excerpts from RAWOA.

    i work in a basement office by myself (my boss runs around a lot and is hardly here, and there are no other employees that work from this office)
    anyway, there is this rat that lives down here.. i've seen him run across between rooms a few times (HUGE, black rat). Now, I have pet rats, so I'm not afriad of this guy and don't mind that he's down there. I've been leaving him little dishes of water inconspicuously (the office manager from upstairs comes down sometimes to show employees of HIS compnay around down here, and get things sometimes, and i dont want him to see my evidence of giving this rat water..). I also leave crumbs of food or leftovers from my lunch out so he can get food.

    However, he chewed through the dishwasher pipes and through the wall. I still don't think they realize that it's coming from a rat.. they just thought water leaked from the dishwasher.

    ANYWAY somehow, they found out about mice being in the front room down here, and the office manager came back to explain to me that there were mice (i pretended to be disgusted..) and told me that they were putting a bunch of traps around. THIS SUCKS. cause now there are traps all around my office and im terrified that these mice, and "my" rat are going to get trapped and I'm going to come across them one day. they're glue traps.. what should i do if i see one of these guys stuck to a trap?? i dont know if i'll be able to not do anything.. however, i wouldnt want to mess with it cause the guy upstairs will get pissed and see that i'm trying to save these guys, plus I don't want to get bitten. what would you do?


    Yes, glue traps do suck. I prefer the traps that kill them instantly. But hey, why don't you try to capture them all alive, and let them live in your home, free range, living on crumbs and water. and enjoy all the diseases that go along with it.


    I had an idea for activism, and thought I would share it with others so that more people could do it. I don't know if it's a completely original idea, but it doesn't matter. Here's what to do: If your city is holding an Easter Egg hunt, plant plastic eggs with cruelty free stickers or other animal-friendly materials that are appealing to children inside. When the children go to find their eggs, they will find yours, and hopefully think about animals in a new way. For example, if someone got something that said simply and nicely where eggs really come from, how many children would want to have REAL eggs for easter ever again? Another helpful thing to do would be to hold a booth outside with information in case children or people are confused or just want to know more. That way you can personally explain the truth about meat, eggs, and dairy


    Oooooh, outsmarting children. well hell's bells, there's a difficult accomplishemnt. Just the other day I convince my cousin's daughter that i ate her play-doh. and let me tell you it took all of ten seconds for me to trick her. Don't bother with trying to help children with abusive parents, instead try ruining a fun holiday for them with your misinformation. and do it wearing leather shoes to show your ignorance even more.


    Hi, my name is Selina, i'm 23 and i'm in the UK. I care about animal rights, so much so i'm studying Wildlife Conservation at university in Sept this year, with a long-term aim to working in international wildlife conservation. I want to dedicate my life to preserving what we can of the wild animals left in the world, simultaneously encouraging a general respect for animals and lobbying for their protection. Biodiversity is the key word really, variety is the spice of life, after all, and biodiversity of plants and animals is essential for food chains and energy systems to function. Plus, the rich variety of animals you can still find in the world are incredible to observe and admire, and teach us as humans more about ourselves, through body language, and behaviour patterns in the wild etc. I can't wait to study my degree, and i'm more than willing to travel abroad to work for animal conservation!
    I'd love to hear from others who feel as i do!


    I bet it's going to be a real kick in the ass when you find out that wild life conservation involves *gasp* hunting. look up the word conservation, dipshit. And while you're at it, stap blabbering about the food chain until you can grasp that humans are part of the food chain, and as predatory omnivores (i.e., primates), we are meant to eat other animals along with our much needed servings of veggies.

    . What do you hope to accomplish in our community?:if i convert one person from a meat eating hunter type who could care less about animals to an animal lover, my time her would be a success

    Yes, because we all know that hunters just hate animals. this logic would indicate that vegetarians go around stomping on plants because they hate them. it's easy to ignore facts like the amount of money that hunting puts into wildlife conservation, and the fact that every hunter i have personally known has had pets that they loved and cared about. but then again it's easy to ignore a lot of things when you're 17 and you think you have the entire world figured out.



    Recently, today actually, I was called back for a second interview at PETsMART, which I first applied to in January.
    At the interview, I was questioned about why I want to work there, experieces with animals, etc.... and I got hired! I'm so incredibly happy, because I unconditionally support PETsMART and all it does for animals everywhere. None of their animals come from mills, none are tortured in breeding facilities, and all are taken care of extremely well. I'm so happy that I'm privledged enough to work there, and I postively cannot wait until my first day!


    I'm sure the heavily parasatized and half dead reptiles and amphibians that petsmart sells are rejoicing in the fact that they didn't come from a breeders facility where they were tortured by being fed captively raised food and given a predator free environment to live in. I'm sure all of the wild caught finches are rejoicing in the fact that they didn't have to go through the horrors of hatching in a wicker basket nest instead of opening their eyes in a real woven grass nest only to find a boomslang eyeballing them. Oh, but I guess only dogs and cats are animals.

    How do you feel about animal rights?: Animals are all happy and stuff in their nice little world, and then humans come along and destroy all that by putting them in cages/testing stuff on them/killing them for food/hunting them for sport, etc.,etc.

    I'm sure animals just despise livign in a place where their lifespan is doubled and their chances of disease are lessened and their chances fo being predated are virtually non existant. The next time I see a crow pecking somethings eyes out, I'll be sure to tell the eyeball less critter just how happy it should be.
    Monday, April 4th, 2005
    9:24 pm
    [spyderbite]
    I did have a huge entry written for here about idiotic AR people, but then my computer took a shit and I'm too pissed off to write it all out again. that just makes em hate these fuckwads even more. so go here and read the stupidty for yourself.

    http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=_rawoa_

    Current Mood: pissed off
    Thursday, March 17th, 2005
    6:07 am
    [spyderbite]
    Terror Alert! Terror Alert!

    https://www.urbandecay.com/promo/howCouldAnyone/index.cfm

    Do NOT buy these bracelets. Do NOT support the HSUS. If you want to buy urban decay products because they don't test them on animals, then by all means, be my guest. but do not give a dime to the HSUS, a PETA like AR group in disguise. the HSUS is a group that tries to impose their beliefs through false propoganda and misinformation, just liek other AR groups. these are the scumbags that tried to push a complete ban on the breeding and selling of reptiles inside the US just short tiem ago. Don't support HSUS.
    Wednesday, March 16th, 2005
    5:22 pm
    [gatorofages]
    Is kitty outside ? JUST SAY NO! NO! NO! (in addition to the kitty post made here)
    According to the American Pet Products Manufacturers Association, there are an estimated 77.7 million pet cats in the U.S. - 26 million more cats than there were 15 years ago -

    and roughly two-thirds of them are allowed to roam outside.

    Then there are the stray and feral cats, another 60 million to 100 million, says the Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission. Scientists estimate that all of these free-roaming cats kill hundreds of millions of birds and probably more than a billion other small wildlife in the U.S. each year, significantly worsening the impacts of diminishing habitat for native wildlife.

    Scientists say cats have been responsible for the extinction of at least eight island bird species. But wildlife populations in the continental U.S., especially those isolated in island-like habitats, such as parks and refuges surrounded by development, are also at risk due to cat predation. Indeed, due in part to the staggering level of cat predation, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife's list of "birds of conservation concern" - a kind of early warning system for birds that does not include the 92 bird species officially listed as threatened or endangered - grew from 28 in 1982 to 131 in 2002.

    Scientists warn the estimated 77.7 million pet cats and 60-100 million stray and feral cats in the U.S. are having a devastating impact on wildlife, each year killing hundreds of millions of birds and probably more than a billion other small animals.

    The Los Angeles Times reports that so many birds are being killed by cats and collisions with buildings and other human made structures that the populations of a full quarter of U.S. bird species are now declining as a result, according to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. Millions of birds die each year when they are confused by the light reflecting off glass and they slam into glass office buildings, windows or sliding-glass doors. Millions more meet their end on auto windshields. Still millions more die in collisions with power lines and communication towers, including television, radio and cell phone towers. And windmills in the San Francisco Bay Area's Altamont hills are taking a high toll on local birds, including golden eagles.

    But house cats are the slaughter machines. One study concluded that free-ranging cats kill at least 7.8 million birds each year in rural Wisconsin alone. And that excludes urban areas. Another study in Michigan concluded that a single pet cat killed at least 60 birds in an 18-month period. All in all, scientists estimate that free-roaming cats kill hundreds of millions of birds, and probably more than a billion other small wildlife, in the U. S. each year, significantly worsening the impacts of diminishing habitat for native wildlife. Wildlife populations isolated in island-like habitats, such as parks and refuges surrounded by development, are particularly at risk.

    That's bad news for birds. Ron Jurek, a biologist with the California Department of Fish and Game who specializes in cat predation, says people often take the stance that felines killing birds is not a problem because there are so many of them flying around. "But a poacher could say the same thing," he counters.

    In California, several species of endangered birds are threatened by cats, including the Western snowy plover, brown pelican and California gnatcatcher, reports the American Bird Conservancy. The endangered least tern, a coastal bird with several dozen colonies from San Francisco to San Diego, faces a threat from raccoons, foxes and dogs, but by far its biggest enemy is cats, a species far less domesticated than anyone thought.

    Seven years ago, the conservancy decided to fight back, starting Cats Indoors!, a campaign to keep feline pets in the house. The major message: Cats are not a natural part of the ecosystem. They compete with native predators and can spread disease. The conservancy also preaches that cats live longer indoors, that they hunt even if well fed and that "cat colonies" are a serious threat to birds. Cat colonies are places where large numbers of feral cats congregate and are fed by humans. In many cases, the animals are spayed or neutered, but Jurek says that doesn't stop cats from hunting, only from reproducing.

    According to the American Bird Conservancy, the domestic cat, Felis catus, is a descendant of the European and African wild cat, Felis silvestris. Domesticated in Egypt around 2,000 BC, cats were introduced to North America when European settlers arrived. Cats may now be the most widespread terrestrial carnivore on earth.

    Because domestic cats are not native to North America, its native wildlife did not evolve good defenses against this numerous, efficient predator. In particular, many island bird populations evolved in the total absence of mammalian predators and therefore have no defenses against them at all, so the introduction of domestic cats to an island can result in the elimination of entire bird populations. As a result, scientists say cats are responsible for the extinction of at least eight island bird species. Cats can also have significant impacts on local wildlife populations, especially in habitat "islands" such as suburban and urban parks, wildlife refuges, and other habitats that are surrounded by human development.

    Domestic cats have huge advantages over native predators. Being well-fed, they are not vulnerable to changes in prey populations. In addition, pet cats are more protected from diseases, predation, competition, and starvation - factors that control the numbers of native predators. And unaltered cats are prolific breeders. In states with warm climates, a female cat can have up to three litters per year, with four to eight kittens per litter. Unlike many native predators, cats are not strictly territorial, keeping members of their own species out of a given area. As a result, cats can exist at much higher densities and may out-compete native predators for food.

    Most of California's threatened or endangered birds and land mammals are vulnerable to domestic cat predation. Although loss and fragmentation of habitat due to human development are the main causes of wildlife population declines, large numbers of pet, stray, and feral cats roaming the remaining habitat is a serious concern. Compounding this problem are the people and organizations who insist on maintaining cats in parks or adjacent to other sensitive wildlife areas.

    A two-year study was conducted in two grassland parks in the East Bay Regional Park District in the San Francisco bay area. One park had no cats, but over 20 cats were fed daily in the other park. Almost twice as many birds were seen in the park with no cats as in the park with cats. California Thrasher and California Quail, common ground-nesting birds, were seen in the no-cat area, but were never seen in the cat area. In addition, over 85 percent of the native deer mice and harvest mice trapped were in the no-cat area, whereas 79 percent of the house mice, an exotic pest species, were found in the cat area. Most likely, the cat food was supporting the house mice in that park. Native deer and harvest mice are important in maintaining the native grassland habitat. According to Dr. Cole Hawkins, who conducted the study, "Cats at artificially high densities, sustained by supplemental feeding, reduced the abundance of native rodent and bird populations, changed the rodent species composition, and may have facilitated the expansion of the house mouse into new areas. Thus ...the feeding of cats in parks should be strictly prohibited."

    Florida's native wildlife species are also threatened by the growing number of free-roaming owned, stray, and feral domestic cats. The adverse impacts of cats in Florida is best documented for threatened and endangered species, especially beach and cotton mice, the Lower Keys marsh rabbit, and the Florida scrub jay.

    Populations of Florida's native beach mice are already severely at risk due to habitat loss, disease, and loss of genetic diversity, and domestic cat predation applies additional pressure to these fragile populations. Found only in the southeastern U. S., beach mice are important for maintaining native grasses which help stabilize the dunes. Six of the eight beach mice subspecies are federal and state listed as endangered or threatened, and two are extinct. Scientists consider predation to be the most important factor now affecting beach mouse survival.

    * The pallid beach mouse is extinct, and extensive sampling in 1989 at the typical habitat for the subspecies revealed high densities of feral cats.

    * Domestic cats have colonized the dune habitat preferred by the Anastasia Island beach mouse and pose a serious threat to remaining populations throughout its range. When cats were removed, there was an abrupt increase in beach mice populations which were previously at very low numbers.

    * A cat colony has had a negative effect on a population of Choctawhatchee beach mouse near Grayton Beach State Park. During a radio telemetry study, eight of the 14 radio-collared mice were lost in the first two days. One radio was tracked and located in the digestive tract of a cat. Another radio was found in cat feces near the campground. At the time, there were at least two feeding stations where large amounts of cat food were dropped regularly.

    * Perdido Key beach mice were re-introduced to Perdido Key State Park in February 2000. Biologists believe that the mouse was extirpated from the park due in part to large numbers of free-roaming cats. Prior to reintroduction, non-native predators were humanely removed.

    * Although the Santa Rosa Island beach mouse is not listed as a threatened or endangered species, cats also impact its populations. Researchers have found an inverse relationship between the number of cat tracks and beach mouse tracks on the island. Areas near human housing have more cat tracks and fewer beach mouse tracks. The reverse is true in remote areas.

    * The Chadwick Beach cotton mouse, formerly found in Englewood Beach, Sarasota County, is extinct. Predation by the large numbers of cats associated with dense residential areas are thought have been an important factor in its disappearance.

    * The last remaining populations of the federal and state listed endangered Key Largo woodrat and Key Largo cotton mouse occur on approximately 3,000 acres of upland tropical hammock on the northern part of Key Largo, Monroe County. The north edge of their habitat is bordered by the Ocean Reef Club which maintains a cat colony of at least 500 stray cats with an annual budget of approximately $100,000 and a veterinarian are devoted to the colony. The south end of the species' ranges are bordered by another colony of approximately 30 cats. Cats are regularly observed throughout the uplands of Key Largo Hammocks Botanical Park and Crocodile Lake National Wildlife Refuge and most certainly prey on the two endangered species.

    * The Lower Keys marsh rabbit is threatened by introduced predators, habitat destruction, disease, and climate change, but the main cause of mortality is the domestic cat. If current mortality rates continue, the Lower Keys marsh rabbit will likely become extinct during the next 20 - 30 years.

    * Many bird species in Florida are native resident and migratory songbirds with populations already in decline due to habitat destruction, degradation, fragmentation, and pesticide pollution. Neotropical migrants that must rely on small forest remnants for migration stop-over sites are especially vulnerable to the high densities of cats in some south Florida parks, such as Greynolds Park in Miami-Dade County, where it is not uncommon to observe 30-50 cats. A survey conducted by the Everglades Research Group concluded that the decline of upland bird populations during the period 1988-1998 was due to a managed cat colony in the park.

    Domestic cats are also known to prey on young and adult Florida scrub jays, a federal and state listed threatened species. Jay survival after leaving the nest is much lower in residential areas than in undeveloped habitat at Archbold Biological Station, apparently because of cats.

    Federal and Florida state agencies are also working to control predators, including cats, in areas that contain federal and state listed species such as loggerhead sea turtle, green turtle, Least tern, Black skimmer, Snowy plover and Piping plover, all species that are killed by domestic cats.

    Several deadly diseases affecting domestic cats have been documented as having spread to the endangered Florida panther, including feline panleukopenia (FPV), which has the potential of being introduced to bobcats as well. Feline immunodeficiency virus (FIV) may have spread to Florida panthers through their consumption of infected domestic cats. Feline leukemia virus (FeLV) is the leading cause of death due to infectious disease in cats and could also be spread to Florida panthers through feral domestic cats.

    Hawaii is considered the endangered species capitol of the world, with more endangered plant and animal species per square mile than any other place on the planet. Hawaii is currently suffering a serious bird extinction crisis which began during Polynesian settlement over 1,600 years ago and has continued through the period of European settlement in the late 1700's to today. Hawaii's unique native birds and other animals are threatened by destruction of habitat for farming and human development, invasion of alien plant species, disease spread by introduced mosquitoes, predation by introduced rats, mongoose, and domestic cats, and habitat degradation by feral pigs, goats, sheep, and cattle.

    Cats were probably introduced to the Hawaiian islands in the late 1700's and feral and free-roaming cats are now a significant problem, even in higher elevations far away from human development. For example, the federally endangered Palila, a Hawaiian honeycreeper, is threatened by feral cats in their protected, but limited habitat of mamane and mamane-naio forest on Mauna Kea. Biologists have been monitoring the
    Palila population for years and have found that since 1998, 8 to 11 percent of monitored Palila nests were depredated annually by cats, inhibiting efforts to restore the Palila population.

    The 'Alala or Hawaiian Crow is now extinct in the wild.

    Endemic to the island of Hawaii, this crow was once abundant in the lower forests on the western and southern sides of
    the island. However, by the early 1990's, 'Alala could only be found in the Kona Forest Unit of the Hakalau National Wildlife Refuge, and by October 1999 there were only three individuals left in the wild. A captive-breeding program was started in the 1970s and by 1998, 24 birds had been released. However, 18 died and the rest were recaptured to protect them and preserve genetic diversity. This bird has suffered from: over-hunting; loss and degradation of habitat; avian malaria and pox carried by introduced mosquitoes; predation by cats, rats, mongoose, and toxoplasmosis, a disease common to domestic cats and rats.

    Other endangered native Hawaiian birds that are preyed on by domestic cats are the Hawai'i creeper, Hawaiian dark-rumped petrel, Hawaiian duck, Hawaiian goose (Nene), Hawaiian hawk, Hawaiian stilt, Newell's shearwater, Nuku pu'u, Large Kaua'i thrush and Small Kaua'i thrush.

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    All of this, is why cats should be kept in the house, and feral populations should be either shot out or trapped out. Free roaming cats should also be trapped and removed, or dispacted humanely in some other way.

    Current Mood: annoyed
    Monday, March 14th, 2005
    4:40 pm
    [gatorofages]
    4:19 pm
    [spyderbite]
    more annoyed incomprehensible ramblings.
    Yet another installment of save the feral cats

    So let's see. first the poster describes how she doesn't like breed bans on pit bulls because pit bulls are mostly a well behaved breed (note-I agree with this, havign never met a pit bull that was aggressive towards humans. in fact, most pitbulls I have met are sissies). then she goes on to say she thinks it's not right that they overlook pit bulls and go after feral cats. Beep Beep! here comes the contradiction truck! WHAM!

    then she says that the idea of feral cats being shot is a reason to keep your cats inside. how about the fact that house cats let outside cause feral cat populations to start, you vapid twat? And I'm nto even goign to read the article but I'll go ahead and go out on a limb in saying that I doubt it would be legal for people to drive around inside city limits with a rifle and go cat plinking. and if it was, even better. Keep your cats inside. you have a few neutered cats you want hanging around in a barn or stable to eat mice? fine. If you have a barn or stabel you have enough land to keep people from coming onto your property to shoot your cats. But letting them out to destroy native wild life and thinking you're nto doign anythign wrogn is asinine. And you can put in all the half truth articles you want, but I'm not buying it. spay and release them? on who's dollar? and you think letting them go to keep destroying animals is a good idea? and what happens when they die off? don't we get more of the so called "vacuum effect"? You want fluffy to live a long and happy life? then keep it inside. If you're so concerend with the well being of your pet, then don't put it in a situation where it can be harmed or cause harm to others.

    Since this idea will likely never pass because so many people seems to think it's a bad idea to control the feral cat problem in the country by any means other then lettign them continue to eb feral cats, I have yet another idea to deal with the problem long term. When you let your cat go wandering around to eat native songbirds, I get to shoot you in the crotch instead of shooting the cat. that way, you can't breed stupid kids and teach them your stupid views about how your cat can do no wrong because you don't see what it's doing, then maybe we'll have less morons doing things like lettign cats loose and saying we should let them continue to live where they don't belong. And that was a fuckign long sentence.
    Thursday, March 10th, 2005
    8:12 pm
    [bass_babe]
    New Member
    ahem *clears throat*
    *stands up*
    my name is shelby and i am a recovering PETAholic....

    i regret EVER having supported these morons in the past.....i have had a love of nature my entire life, and i believe everyone can be a responsible steward of our environmental resources without being a wackjob......

    Isnt it funny how the people who PETA/Greenpeace and others complain about the MOST are the people who are actually DOING the most for our environment...ie hunters, fishermen, watermen, animal rehabbers, etc......

    ......you should pity me...SERIOUSLY...i live less than 20 minutes from these frickin nutjobs headquarters, so we get the BRUNT of their idiocy here.....

    .......feel my pain........

    -BassBabe-

    Current Mood: aggravated
    Wednesday, March 9th, 2005
    3:54 pm
    [spyderbite]
    Shake that tofu, baby
    As reported in the Philadelphia Daily news by April Lisante-

    PETA is having a contest to find the hottest male and female vegetarians in America. Apparently, they've done this for a few years by naming the "sexiest celebrity vegans", but this year average joe schmo gets a shot at the title.

    Some notable sections of the article:

    "the contest, which is going online now through march 15 at www.GoVeg.com, asks the public to vote for their favorite hot veggie lovign single. Sclaroff (girl the article was about) is one of ten female finalists selected by a PETA panel of judges from more than 250 women who submitted their photo entries."

    the winners will recieve "a vegetarian lovers basket of goodies, including vegan brownies and five dozen roses, as well as a photo and story in an issue of PETA's bimonthly member magazine, Animal Times.

    Organizer Bruce Friedrich, PETA's vegan campaign director, said "...all vegetarians are soem of the sexiest Americans, because their healthful, low cholesterol diet allows blood flow to 'all the organs. we have a fraction of the impotence rate that the rest of the population does'".

    Well, I'm glad PETA has enough time to break from fighting the good fight to have an online "which tofu munching tart would you liek to jerk off to" photo contest. While organizations like Pheasant Forever, Ducks Unlimited, and the rocky Mountain Elk Foundation are doign pointless things like raising money to preserve habitat and develop educational programs, PETA is busy deciding just who is the sexiest vegetarian. because, we all know, the sexier you are, the more you can...what is it PETA does for animals again? oh yeah-JACK SHIT. this pretty much sums up PETA's entire existence. they're so busy doing things like making false statements, providing misinformation, misrepresenting use of funds, trying to ban stuffed animals and gummy bears, and buyign roses for people, they forget that they're trying to fool people into thinking that they actually do care about the betterment of animals. The fact that this is actually takign place is sad. the fact that it got positive coverage in a newspaper is even worse.
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